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Hollywood’s 10 Most Realistic Gunfights, No. 10-6

Dale Dye perhaps ushered in the modern era of proper tactical and weapons training for actors when he worked with Oliver Stone on Platoon.  He’s been doing the same thing ever since, and if you liked Saving Private Ryan because the actors actually looked like soldiers he is one big reason why.  There are now a number of actors and directors who insist on realistic action scenes and weapons handling, but sometimes finding them can be a needle in a haystack. In this edition of the blog I will be covering what I think are the Top 10 Most Realistic Hollywood Gunfights. Not necessarily best, or most entertaining, but most realistic. I am deliberately not including military movies or movies based on actual events (Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, Tears of the Sun, etc) for a number of reasons, not the least of which is later on this year I’m going to cover what I think are the 10 best war movies.

 

I’m sure many of you will agree with some of my choices here, and even more will tell me I’m wrong, or I forgot some cinematic gem. Take your best shot.

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#10--Spartan (2004)--“You shot my gun!”



Okay, I borrowed the “You shot my gun!” line from one of my favorite comedies from the ‘80s, The Survivors, with Walter Matthau and Robin Williams, but the line fits here. If you haven’t seen the movie, check it out.

Spartan was written and directed by David Mamet, who has had a very successful career writing for movies and the theater. All of his movies seem to have a weird vibe, and Spartan is no different. Val Kilmer plays a character whose role is never specifically explained, but he appears to be a very well respected spec-ops type now involved in training other recruits, and who also does intelligence work. When the daughter of a VERY high ranking government official is kidnapped, under circumstances best not made public, Kilmer gets the assignment to track her down on the QT. I don’t know if Mamet was interested in realism or Kilmer was still dialed in to the proper tactical mindset after the legendary Heat, but while there isn’t a huge amount of gunplay the weapons handling in this movie is very good.

The case leads him to the Middle East, and at one point in the movie Kilmer finds himself in a gunfight in an alley. Initially armed with an HK MP5K, he has to switch to his backup 1911 when his subgun is disabled by incoming fire. I don’t know if I’d ever seen that before in a movie, but the truth is that in gunfights, people tend to shoot at what they are focused on, and so hits to guns and fingers/hands in shootings are a lot more common than you might think.

 



  • Pete

    Not bad choices; still waiting to see if "Way Of The Gun" makes the list.

  • Joseph King

    In Appaloosa, I always felt they should have engaged the two men with rifles first. At the same range I felt they were the bigger threat.

  • Mike

    If you want realism then in one of the "McCloud" TV shows where he chases a suspect into a movie theater and up onto the stage. Got the setting so far? They finally face each other and draw. McCloud, who is toting a .45 LC fires and hits the suspect which the flys backward about 10 to 15 feet. That is realy what would happen being hit by that size caliber. Not this phony shooting where the guy stands there and then falls forward………

    • Alan_T

      " Flys backward about 10 to 15 feet " ? ….. I'm guessing you've never had any first hand experience . 45 Colt SAA or had the misfourtune of seeing anyone get shot , ( they don't go flying from the blast of a 12 gauge shotgun either ) most people just crumple , unless they are running .

      • mike

        i think you are very right about the flying backwards but that was a double 10 ga.he was shooting lol

        • Alan_T

          Mike , if you are the same " Mike " that I replied to , what does a 10 ga. have to do with your comment about " McCloud " shooting a . 45 Colt SAA and the person being shot " fly(ing ) backwards about 10 to 15 feet " ? ? ?

    • Wolvie

      You may want to look up Newton's Third Law of Motion.

      If the target is sent back 10 to 15 feet, then the shooter would have to be sent back the same distance…

      Then again, you could be joking…but it didn't come off that way…

    • Jeepers Creepers

      A BFR in 45/70 caliber could not do that.

  • Alan_T

    I realize Mr . Tarr is commenting strictly on the realism of the gunfights , but , If you've never heard of " Appaloosa " it's probably because the plot of the movie sucked the big one . It was like a cross between " Tombstone " and " Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid " without any of the class and frankly I thought the relationship between Ed Harris' and Viggo Mortensen's characters was kind of disgusting . A Much better choice for inclusion would have been " Body Of Lies " , " Tombstone " , " Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia " or as Pete suggested " Way Of The Gun " . Of course ….. that's just my opinion ……. I could be wrong . HAHAHAHA

    • Wolvie

      I wasnt a big fan of Appaloosa either. I'm curious what the next 5 will be. I think Unforgiven should make the cut.

      • Alan_T

        I'll go along with that .

      • James Tarr

        The next five will answer everybody's questions, and I'm realizing that by limiting myself to 10, there are a lot of movies I just couldn't include that were really good. I think Unforgiven is the best western ever made, and it does have realistic gunfights, but I have to admit my tastes tend toward movies set in more modern settings…..

    • NerdyBaldGuy

      On the other hand, the BOOK that Apaloosa is based on (of the same name) and later books in that same series by Robert B. Parker (author of the Spenser private detective series) is quite good. Actually, I preferred the later books (I think there were only 3 or 4 before Parker died) because the characterization of Virgil and Emmit becomes more vivid as the series progresses.

  • Jeepers Creepers

    Since I'm almost 60. I liked the Eastwood and Manson movies. I have not seen any movies since 1984. Sorry if I'm wrong about my choice. But those are the movies and actors I grew up watching.

    • Jeepers Creepers

      I just watched death wish. I got the name wrong, Sorry. Bronson.

  • Dirty Devan

    Dame what about Dirty Harry & Charles Bronson?

    • Alan_T

      While those are entertaining movies D D , the author is commenting on what he thinks are the most realistic gunfights on film . Sorry , as much as I like the Dirty Harry / Death Wish , et al movies , their gunfights aren't very realistic .

  • Tommy

    I really like Appaloosa when Vigo cocks the hammers on the double barrel shotgun, all the while pointing it at Ed's head….

    • Alan_T

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! !

  • Ryan

    The gunfight shone as number 6 was one of the worst gunfights I have ever seen.

  • buzz

    "Any other scenes in Heat" Duh ? What about the bank robbery?

  • JohnNichols

    I've always thought that Butch and Sundance were idiots to not have lever action rifles. With rifles, they could easily have shot 2 of the 5 posse members that they were so scared of, then shot the 5's horses, rendering them completely unable to be a factor in the escape of the 2 bandits. Ditto, if the cowboys had really wanted to deal with the Earps and Holiday, just one of them, using a lever gun from cover/ambush, could have killed all four of the anti-gun cops.